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Raman Raghav 2.0
Josh / fullhyd.com
EDITOR RATING
6.0
Performances
Script
Music/Soundtrack
Visuals
9.0
7.0
8.0
8.0
Suggestions
Can watch again
Yes
Good for kids
No
Good for dates
No
Wait to rent it
Yes
Let us ask you a question, Mr. Kashyap. Why do you think people stopped watching Ram Gopal Varma's movies? (And that's a different question from why people started hating him. You know the difference, we're sure.) What if we told you that something similar might be happening with your own films?

Raman Raghav 2.0's plot, in content if not in details, is something RGV would want to rub his face all over into. What with serial killer Ramanna (Siddiqui) using a blunt L-shaped iron road to bludgeon his victims to death. And there's that drug addict cop Raghav (Kaushal) who conveniently snatches a moment to snort cocaine at a crime scene. Throw into this mix a girl (Sobhita Dhulipala) who unhesitatingly submits herself to the abuse of Raghav although he talks of her as the most replaceable object after a doormat. RGV's spectre (not that he's dead but something like that) is grinning right now.

Now you might say that just choosing a similar genre wouldn't make you anything like RGV. What about the detail? What about the psychological exploration into the characters? What about the unconventional themes? Raman Raghav 2.0 in its final form is a total different beast from what anything RGV would ever come up with. Surely, that is enough reason to stop this nonsense about your films going the same path as Varma's.

We buy your point, too. Your filmmaking is indeed spectacular. The casual but super-quirky conversations (like that whole thing of five hundred and fifteen hundred adding to twenty thousand - where do you come up with such stuff?), the deeply stirring visual of torching Ravana during Dussehra, your curious ways of showing violence without actually showing violence (the camera points somewhere else but the disturbing thuds make their way into our heads), your superb use of music (Ram Sampath's fast-paced electronic beats and the completely contrary strains of the tabla - everything enhances and is enhanced by the scenes) - we love it, all of it.

And we were also blown by Mr Siddiqui. Where does the guy summon that conviction? We shouldn't get into a silly contemplation of whether this is his best performance but we could go the extent of saying there is perhaps no other actor who may have done what Siddiqui manages to do with Ramanna. The generally self-effacing meek gent (at least that's what he comes across as in his interviews) metamorphoses into such a remorseless mad monster, and often he's enough to hold the screen. Vicky Kaushal's disturbed and disturbing performance just becomes a bonus. This is indeed glorious stuff on many levels.

But sometimes, that may just not be enough for the audience (and we aren't talking from some removed elevated standpoint - the reviewer particularly identifies as general audience here), you know. This is where we may begin to get a glimpse at why we felt you're going the RGV way.

These sort of films aren't exactly evergreen material. The content, we mean. Crime films, dark films, disturbing films are watched often, but the deal is that the audience needs a certain novelty in presentation. You could call it shock value if there's emphasis on the negativity, but the idea really is to give the audience a sense of seeing something they've not seen before. RGV managed that very well with Satya and Company and the like. You pulled that off, too, with Gulaal, Dev D, Gangs of Wasseypur (of course!) and the like.

However, unlike love stories or family stories or plain masala which people treat like regular meals - you don't bunk dinner because you had breakfast - these films are seen as the exotic and risqué dishes whose appeal steadily diminishes with every consumption. So we see a dime-a-dozen ordinary love stories which people continue to watch despite little craft. But when it comes to the kind of dark stuff you're making, people need much more than just good craft. What that much more is or should be, we can't say.

Ugly, your last regular undertaking (let's not discuss Bombay Velvet in this context), too, was a bloody well-made film. But few people saw any reason to watch it. Raman Raghav 2.0 got more attention because of Siddiqui, but for most viewers it wasn't the same goosebumps experience as your earlier movies. Something was dull, something was underwhelming, and that isn't exactly forgiven in thrillers.

What's more, at least Ugly had a strong moral axis even though no one in the film did. Raman Raghav 2.0 doesn't even have that. There is a pale blink-and-you-miss-it sort of a moral axis which flashes towards the end but you were more keen on exploring your dark protagonists. That left us, morality seekers, hanging.

So the film's plot began to look like: murder - abuse - drug abuse - sexual abuse - murder - abuse - murder - murder - stalking - murder - murder - abuse - xenophobic abuse - murder - drug abuse - sexual abuse - murder - the strangest bonding scene between the leads - murder.

Yup, that's it.

Which is why it was difficult to like Raman Raghav 2.0. Sure, serial killers may be built that way, but a lot many people aren't exactly passionate about serial killers. To peek into their psyche and realise that it is an amoral abyss which is neither pretty nor disgustingly attractive is an experience that most of us don't particularly care about.

You know who else didn't care for what the audience cared about? Ram Gopal Verma. He made whatever he felt like (and that's a perfectly acceptable decision, of course). People stopped caring altogether when he didn't even work on his craft. With you, though, we still appreciate the craft, but we're beginning to wonder whether you care about what we care about. Some of us will continue to watch your films for the sheer cinematic experience they tend to be, but with the rest, you're probably saying your goodbyes.
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The Common Movie Goer on 25th Jun 2016, 11:34am | Permalink
You don't get it. The comparison with RGV is 200% justified and with good reason. They come from the exact same school of thought and their views on life are similar. The whole RGV school think in the exact same fashion - they project a human's existential crisis and they question the purpose of life on the screen. Puri Jagannath who makes the hero fall in love with a Sanyasin, Anurag Kashyap who explores relationships and the human psyche from a different perspective, Krishna Vamsi with his stupid family dynamic movies, they are all extremely similar in how they approach a subject.

The one thing that is common with all of these filmmakers (not just directors) is that they dared to make unconventional movies which went on to become massive movies. I mean, which producer in his right mind would've backed Shiva and Pokiri (the movie I've watched 400+times) when they came out? More importantly, all these directors are beginning to lose their way by not caring about the audience anymore. Different ideas are good, but radically different ideas are simply not palatable (looking at you Puri Jagannadh). The other directors at least seem to acknowledge their failure in public, even though they might not actually believe it. RGV with his weird close ups and camera angles genuinely thinks that people are absolute idiots. It's one thing when stuff goes over people's heads, but it's just denial when the movie doesn't appeal to anyone (including yours truly).

Josh is one of the best reviewers there is on the internet, although I don't agree with his actual numeric ratings some times. Your usage of double quotes indicates either that you consider yourself a an expert on the subject, or that you didn't read the review in full. I was able to empathize with Josh and could feel that the movie failed to tap its potential. I am a huge fan of RGV as a person, but not as a director. He lives life on his terms and his articles are thoughtfully written and are profound. I am still hoping for another Pokiri from Puri and another Gangs from Anurag Kashyap. But until they realize that they are losing audience, it makes sense for reviewers to keep pointing it out to them.
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Veturi Sarma on 26th Jun 2016, 2:41pm | Permalink
I believe the responsibility of a film critic is always towards the art and never to the choices of the film maker nor the tastes of the audience. I don't like film criticism to speak for the artist nor for the audience and, instead focus on the art which in itself is greater than the artist or the audience.
Kalyan on 24th Jun 2016, 11:04pm | Permalink
Wow, Commenting on RGV has become a fad. I don't get where RGV comes into the picture even though you are reviewing a movie he is no way related to (Kashyap might have worked with him, but RGV is no way related to this movie).
I guess what he says about movie "reviewers" is right.
Why can't you just review this movie and leave it there?
Thought you had some decent review chops, but seems like you are getting way over your limitations.
The Common Movie Goer on 25th Jun 2016, 11:34am | Permalink
You don't get it. The comparison with RGV is 200% justified and with good reason. They come from the exact same school of thought and their views on life are similar. The whole RGV school think in the exact same fashion - they project a human's existential crisis and they question the purpose of life on the screen. Puri Jagannath who makes the hero fall in love with a Sanyasin, Anurag Kashyap who explores relationships and the human psyche from a different perspective, Krishna Vamsi with his stupid family dynamic movies, they are all extremely similar in how they approach a subject.

The one thing that is common with all of these filmmakers (not just directors) is that they dared to make unconventional movies which went on to become massive movies. I mean, which producer in his right mind would've backed Shiva and Pokiri (the movie I've watched 400+times) when they came out? More importantly, all these directors are beginning to lose their way by not caring about the audience anymore. Different ideas are good, but radically different ideas are simply not palatable (looking at you Puri Jagannadh). The other directors at least seem to acknowledge their failure in public, even though they might not actually believe it. RGV with his weird close ups and camera angles genuinely thinks that people are absolute idiots. It's one thing when stuff goes over people's heads, but it's just denial when the movie doesn't appeal to anyone (including yours truly).

Josh is one of the best reviewers there is on the internet, although I don't agree with his actual numeric ratings some times. Your usage of double quotes indicates either that you consider yourself a an expert on the subject, or that you didn't read the review in full. I was able to empathize with Josh and could feel that the movie failed to tap its potential. I am a huge fan of RGV as a person, but not as a director. He lives life on his terms and his articles are thoughtfully written and are profound. I am still hoping for another Pokiri from Puri and another Gangs from Anurag Kashyap. But until they realize that they are losing audience, it makes sense for reviewers to keep pointing it out to them.
questioner on 12th Aug 2016, 5:19pm | Permalink
RGV never made unconventional movies....he made conventional movies in an entertaining format...he is not that talented to make truly realistic movies nor has the inclination for it...
Kalyan on 28th Jun 2016, 7:37pm | Permalink
Basis: Movie Review on FullHyd.com (re-read it, i want a movie review not RGV comparison, his psychology, his mentality or Puri or Idly review)
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I came here to read a movie review and not RGV review (you can as well say RGV style, it is my choice and read or not read is our choice :))
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Let us clarify this first: Josh is reviewing a movie and not RGV.

If he says in the Title RGV Review, i would accept your lengthy response.

Your comprehension and thought process seems to be pretty limited about what a movie Review is (Review the movie and not people, no offense here, don't go on about unrelated directors and names, i want a movie Revie)

Whether i am an expert or not is irrelevant here.
Read this statement from the above review:

"(And that's a different question from why people started hating him. You know the difference, we're sure.)"
For example in the review ,Josh said people started hating RGV, in what way is this relevant to this review unless he has some special affinity to commenting on People not relevant to the topic.
Whether Anurag Kashyap is going down the drain or Puri or Krishna Vamsi, why do you think i want to discuss that in a movie Review?

"But until they realize that they are losing audience, it makes sense for reviewers to keep pointing it out to them"

So is Josh writing this piece for a common movie Goer or for RGV to look at?
If you believe the latter, then i don't know what to say.

We need to separate things and not mix up (Movie Review from a Person Review)
Josh on 25th Jun 2016, 10:01am | Permalink
Hi Kalyan! As is my modus operandi, I try to find similarities and references and use them to discuss the review film in a comparative context. If I'm doing it with Udta Punjab (where I referred to Boyle and Arronofsky), I'd as well do it with Raman Raghav 2.0. RGV makes for a very good case study here.

Perhaps your comment wouldn't be so caustic if you observed that my own comments on RGV aren't at all caustic. You'll notice that my point was to discuss why he ran out of favour and not to engage in gratuitous mud slinging.
Kalyan on 28th Jun 2016, 7:47pm | Permalink
I guess you take full ownership of your work. Your medium of communication with others is through your writing. My response is to this piece rather than you personally. I am not a fan boy of RGV or Puri or Idly. Our biases come out through our writing. I would have fully agreed if this was a RGV Analysis or RGV Modus Operandi analysis rather than "Raman..." Review.

I believe (you may or may not agree" with the following, but If you are reviewing say a product, concentrate on the product (now don't say movie is art and all that often repeated **) and not on the personality of the manufacturer. I am interested in the product and nothing else.

Again it is your review and your modus operandi.
But try to separate out things. Create another section and say "Telugu/Hindi Director's Style/Personal Analysis"
Kanye on 24th Jun 2016, 10:53pm | Permalink
Your comments on RGV intrigue me. Could you enlighten me on why the audience hates RGV? Yes, I know that he has a weird way of viewing things and his creativity is at rock bottom, but I still respect the man. And when it boils down to it, I think "gee, he actually has a good point" and some of his movies still have a flair. So from your standpoint, I want to know why people hate RGV. And if you have a thesis, why has RGV come to be what he is now?
Josh on 25th Jun 2016, 10:02am | Permalink
That'd be a lot of speculation, Kanye. I'll try to indulge in it some time when I find enough time.
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